Interview preparations with Yip Busaba and Charles Wong

EVERYTHING STARTS SMALL

OR

WITH A QUESTION

on our own behalf: 
Unfortunately we were able to do the interview due to Corona 
and other circumstances not record yet. We endeavor to catch up on this 
in terms of video. 
Nevertheless, I would like to start my work on the publish 
chinese immigration in hawaii without the conversation. 
For this I have included part of the mail traffic with Charles Wong here.

Good to read in advance:

The small archipelago in the blue Pacific Ocean, Hawaii, once again changed world history with this huge topic of mine „China discovered Hawaii“!

In order to understand the „why“ and „why“, the discovery and immigration of the Chinese to Hawaii as well as the change in world history, to learn more about the background and context, the following link takes you to the historical journey through time:

CHINA DISCOVERS HAWAII & WITH WORLD HISTORY

 


© Foto Shayna , 2015

When my wife Shayna and I were once again on the Hawaiian Islands for this project “Tales of Hawaii” in 2017 to meet our friends and Visiting interview partners, we also pursued the culture of Shayna in our “free time”. Because, among other things, the roots of their great-great-grandparents can also be found in China such as Okinawa.

We strolled leisurely, laughing, on the island of Maui in the old whaling town of Laheina up Front Street in the direction of Mala Historic Wharf and looked at the old, brightly repainted wooden houses from then on, where galleries, restaurants, bars, food stores and of course not closed overlooked the tourist shops that have their doors open to everyone. From cheap goods “Made in China” to very elegant, expensive clothing stores “Made in USA” or even more rarely “Made in Hawaii” instead of the shabby, dark wooden houses with the stench of Waloel barrels. Although Laheina has become a tourist town, if you know your way around, you can still find the „old Hawaii“ with its warm, cheerful, friendly native Hawaiians.

Lahaina-Shopping

Shayna and I were walking to Baby Beach, where we of course covered the warm sand with our brought bath towels and sat there for a very long moment with the view of the blue ocean and the islands of Kaho ‚olawe, Lanai like also Molokei. After a while we went to the same beach to the Japanese, Chinese and Hawaiian Pu ‘upiha cemetery, where large gravestones, like small stone pots with Asian inscriptions, peek out of the sand. The cemetery is divided in such a way that the Japanese part is on the opposite side of the Buddha statue and the Jodo temple, the Chinese cemetery is closer to the Mala shipyard and the Hawaiian cemetery behind the shipyard. It’s a very spiritual, sacred place. In the late 1800s. First many Chinese and later Japanese immigrants came to Hawaii, where they worked hard on the sugar plantations and mills. If these workers have died in old age, their bones have been sent back to their homeland such as China or Japan according to their Asian culture, so that they can be buried in their homeland. Over time, with political difficulties and unrest in China as well as Japan, the bones of the deceased were more and more buried in this cemetery, as it became difficult to send the remains over in this situation.

The Japanese celebrate the O-Bon Festival annually for their beloved ancestors and deceased, where everyone releases a lantern with a candle in it, the sky and the sea for their slumbering soul. A sparkling, shimmering sea of ​​lights in the dark black night, the wind carries with it out into the open sea to the other land of resting souls. In addition, the huge taiko drums are lovingly beaten by strong men and women and give this spectacle its own. This voluminous sound of the drums accompanies these lights out to their destination. As soon as the lights get smaller and disappear into the darkness, everyone gathers around the taiko drums in a circle, after which a special Japanese dance is danced around the drums with joy, laughing, humorous, also thinking, sad. The hard, fast, then slow again, cautious and soft, gentle beats will generate a sound on these oversized large drums that goes deep into you and only does your thoughts, your soul, your feelings good and you feel free. Free from all vice.

Obi in Pearl Habor

By the way: Shayna took me to an O-Bon festival on the Big Island, not here in Laheina. I can only say that if you are at such a festival and just want to watch because you don’t speak Japanese, you don’t know the customs of the Japanese, you are not a talented dancer … you should have thought about that beforehand . Because your excuses are now of no use, believe me, really nothing if an older Japanese woman smiles at you and reaches out her arms to you or whoever brings you to the dance, they won’t accept any of your excuses. Your alibis, however elegant and clever, they don’t work. You can’t refuse them this dance and just stand there stiffly, ignore the hearty friendly invitation and just watch. You will be asked to step into the dancing circle with a loving smile, you will be taken with joy and invited to take part. Suddenly another Japanese woman is dancing in front of you and shows you the steps and movements I have to make, yes, she introduces you to the dance so that I can also do the dance of joy and memory of our ancestors. I just say: have fun, it’s as humorous as when you have to eat with chopsticks for the first time, especially since you are used to eating with a fork for a long time. When I danced along and looked into the large circle, I saw that many dance helpers from the most diverse mixed nations of Asian and Hawaiian people were auditioning. It gave me great pleasure to be able to be there, especially with my wife.

It was now late afternoon, in Lahaina, when Shayna and I took the Buddha statue and some time to see the Jodo temple.

Joddo Tempel ©Foto Gérard Koch, 2015
Buddha ©Foto Gérard Koch, 2015
© Foto Gérard Koch, 2015

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The sun soon reached the intersection between the sky and the water level, where we ran back into town. Of course we planned to go to the Wo Hing Museum, which actually wanted to close soon. But Busaba Yip Douglas PH. D., let in the splendid, highly interesting museum, where there is a masterful temple on the first floor. Shayna immediately started chatting with Yip while I was looking around the museum. We were the only visitors there, so we could take a closer look at everything. Yip accompanied us from time to time and gave us various exciting information about the objects. When we finished our tour through time and rooms in the museum and wanted to say goodbye to Yip, we returned to a fascinating topic, the immigration of the Chinese in Hawaii. It was very exciting to listen to her and ask questions.

Yip & Shayna © Foto Gérard Koch, 2017

In further conversations and emails, Yip repeatedly mentioned the names Sun Yan-Sen and Charles Wong. Yeah, I asked myself who were these people? Because these names didn’t seem familiar to me at that moment.

What do these people have to do with Hawaii and China? I would like to find out more about you. Yes, I admit, as a white Westerner, I did not know these people by the name of Charles Wong and Sun Yan-sen. You? When I talked to Shayna about it and asked her about it, she explained to me very precisely and at length which personalities these two gentlemen are. Charles Wong, who lives here in Hawaii, is the great-grandson of Sun Yan-sen, the first Chinese president of the new Republic of China after the fall of the Qing Dynasty. – Yes, I was speechless! I needed something, something “a very long time”, until I understood it, and could correctly assign everything to whom I came into contact here. In the next few days my thoughts were in Asian world history and made me more curious. So the memories slowly came back to me, where as a young boy I had been sitting on the floor in front of the tube radio, listening to the Asian conflicts on the news.

wo-hing-society-hall
Wo-Hing-Museum-frontwalk-in-Lahaina

In talking to Shayna, I said to her that I would happily interview these people. So we used our remaining time on Maui to do an interview with Busaba Yip Douglas PH. D. and Charles Wong to organize. Unfortunately it didn’t want to work anymore.

Although time passed, Shayna and I were back in Switzerland from Hawaii, time in Switzerland also went by in no time at all, I used my free time and found out more about Asian history and immigration.

After long research, reading, writing down, collecting documents, I was ready to fly home to Hawaii again on my upcoming 2020 vacation and do the interview. Unfortunately, the global Corona pandemic came in 2020 & 2021, where I wasn’t allowed to fly to Hawaii to produce the interview with the two of them. Up to now we have also not managed to carry out this conversation remotely with the new IP technology. For me it is a very important chapter in the history of Hawaii, because the Asian settlement on the Hawaiian Islands has also brought about a significant big change in their former Hawaiian culture, economy and let’s not forget, the change in people in themselves, through the merging of both cultures.

Mayor Alan Arakawa is pictured here shaking hands with Lily Sun, grand-daughter of Sun Yat-sen. In between Mayor Arakawa and Lily is Minister Wu Yink-yih of the Republic of China in Taiwan. Also featured (on the right of Lily) is Charles Wong, great-grandson of Sun Yat-sen, both of whom flew in from Oahu for the ceremony. The group is standing in front of the Kwock Hing Society Hall in Kula, which was erected in 1907 and was the first two story structure in Kula. Photo courtesy, County of Maui.

So I had no choice but to stay with Yip and Charles in writing. So that my two friends had a rough idea of the upcoming interview and could prepare, I presented my first thoughts and questions, generally my idea, to them. In the following email correspondence with Charles, where I publish here, you can see the depth of the topic based on his impressive, honest answers. (PS: We are still trying to catch up on the interview in terms of video)

My quick and easy thoughts and questions, including errors, 
that shot straight through my head, which I then wrote as the first 
rough frame in the mail to Yip, Wo Hing Temple Museum in Laheina, 
on January 5th, 2021: 

Aloha Yip,
I hope you are well in Laheina. How was 2020 for you?

Unfortunately, I cannot count this year among my good years. But what do you want, you have to take it as it comes and have to be satisfied with little. The main thing is to be healthy.

I have read the story of Sun Yat-Sen for a few days now. Very interesting. When I read an overview of Chinese history and looked at it on YouTube, things came back to my mind that I was given as a toddler.

How the memory comes back … smile …. As luck would have it, where I wrote to my friend in China this week and told her about it, she informed me that her grandparents had seen Sun Yat-Sen too.

She will also ask her grandparents after this year and send me some information. I’m curious. Of course I’ll send you this info too. The Chinese history, like that of Sun Yat-Sen, is huge.

Therefore I would like to be “only” interested in the time when Sun came to Hawaii as a 13 year old boy to see his brother. I will send you my thoughts, questions and interests here in brief:

– A short biography of Sun Yat-Sen, his family and his brother?
– Who was his brother? Sun Mei (Ah Mi) and what’s happened to his Range in Maui?
– Is there a family tree of Sun Yat-sen?
– Who is the great grand son? Is it victor sun?
– How was the time when the first Chinese workers came to Hawaii?
– How was the relationship between the Hawaiians and the Chinese?
– Lots of Chinese married Hawaiian women, weren’t there any problems?
– How did China-Town develop in Honolulu and how did people live there?
– How did the Hawaiian royal house behave towards the Chinese population?
– How did the Hawaiian royal house relate to the „revolutionary work“ of Sun Yat-Sen?
– How was the relationship between the royal house and Sun Yat-Sen?

– On the American mainland, there was strong discrimination against the Chinese, including pogroms. („Chinese Exclusion Act“ by Dennis Kearney). How did this affect Hawaii?

– Was it really only because of the plague epidemic that houses in Chinatown were burned down in 1899-1900 or was it more to discriminate against the Chinese population there?

– The Chinese started with sugar plantations as well as coffee in Hawaii. How did the Chinese behave when the American missionaries and US businessmen took over the plantations and pushed the Chinese away?

– How did the Chinese, who were married to Hawaiian women, react to the annexation?

– Has Sun Yat-Sen dealt with Hawaiian-Chinese / American problems and done something about it, or did he just have to change the view of mainland China?

These are briefly put together my questions. I’m sure there will be more questions, which I will pass on to you. Yip, I would like to thank you for your great work and look forward to your letter, which I will be happy to present on my website. For tomorrow’s New Year I want to wish you all the best and health. Let’s be surprised what the new year 2021 will bring us.

I wish you a happy new year.

Mahalo

Gerard

Letter from great-grandson Charles Wong of San Yen-Sen on January 5th, 2021 

Aloha Gerard,

Busaba, thank you for the introduction to Gerard.

Dr. Sun Yat-sen was an anti-imperialist, who was outraged by the American annexation of Hawaii and the Philippines.

In 1898, Dr. Sun supported Philippine Revolutionaries to declare fight against the American annexation of the Philippines.

Sun Yat-sen had spent his youth and formative years in Hawaii and personally met King David Kalakaua, who awarded him a book for winning second prize in an English grammar competition with native speakers.

When Hawaii was annexed by the United States and became a territory, the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 applied, making Chinese immigration very difficult.

Chinese were given Certificates of Hawaiian Birth (not citizenship).  If a Chinese man returned to China to marry a Chinese bride, they could lose their status of Hawaiian Birth, meaning that they could not return to Hawaii to give birth to offspring, who would increase the Chinese numbers in Hawaii.

This is one of the reasons why the Chinese population is relatively small despite the fact that they started coming to Hawaii as early as 1789.

The discrimination that the Chinese received overseas, coupled with the reality that China was on the brink of ruin, fueled Overseas Chinese support for Dr. Sun’s Revolution.

Hawaiian Royalty did not directly support Dr. Sun’s Revolution, however, an argument can be made that Sun Mei’s Ranch came from his Hawaiian wife, who was descended from the Chiefs of Maui, in the Ahupua’a of Kamaole, which stretched from the summit on Haleakala down to the sea in Kamaole, between Kihei and Wailea.

One of the principle proponents of the Chinese Exclusion Act was Leland Stanford, Sr. who built the Union Pacific Railway and made a fortune off the backs of Chinese laborers, only to back the Chinese Exclusion Act when he became U.S. Senator for California in 1882.

The Chinese were only expendable labor.  Many left the U.S. for Canada, where they built the Canadian trans-continental railway, and when Canada was finished using them, also instituted a Chinese Exclusion Act as well.

As China was a weak country „Sick man of Asia“ there was no strong government to speak up for the poor treatment of Chinese laborers, they were unfortunately treated perhaps marginally better than slaves, but that’s the real history of America.

Sun Yat-sen’s arrival and education in Hawaii opened his mind to the outside world, from which he could understand how poor, backward, and suffering his people were.

Sun’s conversion to Christianity motivated him to do God’s work to save the people on Earth, in particular his own people.

Over the past 100 years, so much of Dr. Sun’s vision for China and the World has come to fruition.  Dr. Sun did not live to see the fruition of his vision.  He was not called a „visionary“ during his life, but rather as a „Dreamer“ or even „Day Dreamer.“

Yet, a portion of Dr. Sun’s dream has become a vivid reality in China today, so much so, that the Chinese people have begun to call him the „Prophet“ and indeed in my humble opinion he was the Prophet of Modern China and the World.

In Japan alone, Dr. Sun was known to have had over 2,000 Japanese friends!

Apparently the Japanese could recognize something special about Dr. Sun?

The Chinese men, married Hawaiian women, and most Hawaiians today, have Chinese blood in them.   The intermarriage between Chinese and Hawaiians fortified their genes with resilience and immunity.

The story of the Modern Chinese Revolution, is actually the remarkable story of two brothers, Sun Mei and Dr. Sun Yat-sen who devoted everything they had, to saving their country, founded upon Sun Mei’s business success in the Hawaiian Islands, the most remote group of islands in the world!

Sun Mei died of a broke heart, bankrupt.

Dr. Sun Yat-sen also died penny less.

In nearly 5,000 years of Chinese history and civilization, the truly great leaders are only few.  Dr. Sun Yat-sen is amongst them, however, never before did China have a leader whom was a patriot, when such a thing was unknown to the Chinese.   It is for this reason, Dr. Sun Yat-sen is admired by the world, but revered by his own people.

Western biographers of Sun Yat-sen tend to denigrate and belittle him….as not deserving of the adjective „great.“

Chinese biographers of Sun Yat-sen tend to beautify him.

I personally believe that the last chapter on Sun Yat-sen has yet to be written, when his vision for China and the world becomes a reality.

That vision is known as the Great Harmony of the World, Shijie Datong, when the world is equally shared by all, Tian Xia Wei Gong.

Dr. Sun clearly articulated that man must evolve towards his highest potential.  The potential for kindness, and to rid himself of selfish, animalistic nature, or else humanity would ultimately extinguish itself…which has already begun on a planetary scale.

Dr. Sun Yat-sen was my maternal great grandfather.

Dr. Sun’s ideology, known as the Three Principles of the People, Civic Nationalism, the People’s Rights, and the People’s Livelihood.

Under the People’s Rights, the four rights of the people: the right of the people to elect their own representatives, and if the representatives are bad, to recall them.  The right of the people to initiate new laws, and if the laws are bad, the right of the people to have a referendum to repeal the bad laws, come from the Cantons of Switzerland…

Aloha,

Charles Wong

January 10, 2021 - My reply to Charles Wong: 

Aloha Charles.

Thank you very much for your mail with the terrific answers to my questions. It’s exciting to read about it. It makes me really curious to find out more about it.

I also think other people will be interested in this story.

Hence my question to you, Charles, whether they would be willing to do a video interview with me. Interview may be the wrong expression.

As you can see on my website (www.talesofhawaii.net ) my concept is rather to let the interviewees talk and listen. I would of course send you the questions beforehand so that you can prepare yourself as well.

During the conversation, I will then ask you the same questions, but I will not interrupt you afterwards. I will write down the counter-questions and ask them later.

The duration of the conversation is open. It takes as long as you want to tell.

If you are ready and want to tell your story, I would be very happy. Unfortunately we have the small problem here, the distance and travel. So I can’t come on site to record this conversation with a camera.

Therefore I have the following ideas:

1. Interview about vMix. Similar to Skype, only more professional.

You would receive a link and code, where you can then dial in with your laptop with camera, or mobile phone or whatever.

I would record this on my server here in Zurich. Of course, this would also be great if a real camera would also record you and then stream the video to me.

– Unfortunately, I don’t know any person in Hong Kong where they can come to you with a camera and also record it separately.

2. You record the interview yourself, without us. Be it with audio and video on a laptop or just audio and then send the file to me.

3. You just write your story in digital form and send me this document. Of course, writing on paper is also absolutely possible.

What do you think about it? If you agree, what would be the easiest form for you?

On my side, two friends would support me so that I can concentrate on the conversation. A friend would take care of the technical and the recording, and the other friend would guide me through the conversation and take notes.

I would then prepare the conversation, like the other conversations on my website, and write about it. Therefore it is not a problem in the recording to promise to repeat itself. We can pause and stop at any time.

Another suggestion or idea from me is, if you agree with Charles and Yip, to edit this conversation so that it is not only on my website, but also that Yip has the opportunity to visit the „WHERE HING MUSEUM“ to show in Laheina.

What’s your opinion here?

Yip, may I actively include you (video-wise) in the conversation, you and I as a questioner to Charles Wong or do you just want to send me your questions to Charles? I would be very happy to include your questions, your curiosity and your topics about China and Hawaii in the conversation with Charles Wong. I think this is an absolutely terrific, excellent conversation.

But I would also like to give Charles the freedom and change to tell his story where you, Charles, think that people are interested and should experience this. Do you have a topic / story?

At the moment I am digging deeper into the topic and then writing down the questions in an orderly manner and giving the structure of the conversation.

Once I have this together, I would send this to you all.

I’m really looking forward to this project, regardless of the form in which Charles decides to talk to us.

Thank you all now for your time and efforts.

Wish you a good and healthy time.

Bye for now. Mahalo.

Gérard

January 11, 2021 by Charles Wong: 

Aloha Gerard,

Regarding Tales of Hawaii on your website.   I think the story of the Sun Brothers is a Hawaii Legend, especially for the Chinese people in Hong Kong, Taiwan, China and Singapore.  The simple reason is that Dr. Sun Yat-sen is a legendary figure, and in many way enigmatic.  It is for this reason that so many biographies have been written about Dr. Sun Yat-sen and still continue to be written about him.

The last chapter on Dr. Sun has yet to be written….

The reason why I say this, is because different parts of his vision are still in the process of coming to fruition today.

Dr. Sun was called a „dreamer“ or even a „day dreamer“ during his time, and yet an entire generation of Chinese considered him as their teacher and leader.

Dr. Sun not only founded the Republic of China as the first republic in Asia, but was also an inspiration to an entire generation of revolutionaries throughout Asia from Korea, to Vietnam, the Philippines and Indonesia.

In many ways the Modern China we are witnessing, become the most technologically advanced society, is leading and creating the future civilization of the world, just as Dr. Sun preached.

During Dr. Sun’s time, he also had many critics who called him too idealistic, and even utopian, yet so much of Dr. Sun’s dream has become a reality in China and the world today.

The origins of Dr. Sun’s revolutionary thought can be traced back to his formative years in Hawaii, where he witnessed the modern advances of the outside world, for the first time, and what he saw, he deeply wanted for China.

The foundation of Dr. Sun Yat-sen was his brother, Sun Mei, 12 years his senior, who came to Hawaii penny less, and through talent and hard work became a legendary figure amongst the Chinese in Hawaii, such that they nicknamed him, „The King of Maui.“

Through the education that Dr. Sun received in Hawaii, coupled with Christianity, Dr. Sun returned to Hawaii in October 1894 and on November 24, 1894 founded the Xinzhong Hui, (Revive China Society) as his first revolutionary organization.  At the age of 28, Dr. Sun had become Asia’s first revolutionary.

One of the first person’s Dr. Sun co-opted was his brother Sun Mei, who became his greatest supporter.

Ultimately, Dr. Sun would persuade his brother to sacrifice everything he had, for what he believed in, and in doing so also sacrificing his brother in the process.

In 1907, Dr. Sun initiated four, out of his 10 revolts against the Qing Dynasty in that one year alone, which caused his brother, Sun Mei, to become financially broken, bankrupt, and to become uprooted from the Hawaiian Islands which had been the fertile soils of his success.

The entire Sun Family lived in Hawaii from 1896-1907.  It was their haven and refuge.  At Sun Mei’s peak he owned nearly 100 properties on Maui and Oahu islands, and in the end, he did not have a single home for his own family members.

Hawaii, the most remote group of islands in the world, was the land which gave birth to and nurtured the modern Chinese revolution of Dr. Sun Yat-sen.

You cannot understand modern China without understanding Dr. Sun Yat-sen and his revolution.

One man cannot do revolution alone, however, it is a fact that the modern Chinese revolution was started and arduously promulgated by one man, and it is for this reason, the Chinese people considered him as their leader.

The world has changed under COVID-19 where I believe that we can perform the „interview“ remotely, as you’ve suggested.

Please tell me why you have decided to undertake the program „talesofhawaii“.

Thank you,

Charles

January 13, 2021 Mail from me to Charles: 

Aloha Charles.

Thank you very much for your letter.

When I got to know my former Hawaiian wife Shana, where part of her blood comes from China too, I learned a different story about Hawaii during discussions from her friends than was learned and told to us in Europe and in x other countries.

This inspired me to create this website to give the Hawaiians a platform, so that they can tell their story to us, the West. It’s supposed to open our eyes to us in the West and show us the true history and culture of Hawaii.

There should be space for everything on this website, not only the political stories but also music, hula, mythology as well as environmental problems and many other topics that concern Hawaii.

If Shayna and I were always in Honolulu, we were always found in Chinatown. Is one of our favorite places there.

The city change, a timeline of how Chinatown was born and how the district looks today, like the same in all of Honolulu, will soon be another topic for my „TalesOfHawaii“- project. Is being planned.

China is very important in Hawaiian history and culture. Not only was the Chinese world history changed and written from Hawaii, which few people here in the West know.

We also know too little about the fate of how the Chinese people suffered and had to work hard back then. Why many Chinese had to leave their beloved country, came to a new country with a different culture and how they got a foothold there.

In general, we know far too little, if any, about Chinese-Hawaiian history. With this interview I would like to light the light in the dark in Europe to give our people and people who are thirsty for knowledge a new insight into the past.

With this interview, I would also like to give the new Chinese and Hawaiian generations a piece of root that they can hold onto and return to their past. To let understanding arise.

So that the hard, self-sacrificing life of the Chinese who lived there at the time is not forgotten today. So that we remember the people of that time. And what would be the future of this hawaiian-chinese people or special in China.

These are my motivations for this interview with you Charles. You Charles, where you were born in Chinese and Hawaiian history with very important grandparents in the family tree.

You certainly have a lot to say that makes people curious and interested. I think, the people are ready to hear your story.

Thank you for your time, patience and understanding for my writing.

I wish you a happy day.

Gérard

On the same day, January 13, 2020 the answer: 

Aloha Gerard,

The Chinese came to Hawaii as early as 1789, but the large groups of Chinese contract laborers did not start coming until the 1840-1850’s, to work in the sugar cane fields.

As mentioned previously, Dr. Sun Yat-sen’s brother Sun Mei, arrived in Hawaii in 1871, following his mother’s brother, Young Mun Nap, who came to Hawaii earlier.

Initially only Chinese men came, and this is why they inter-married with the Hawaiian women to have Chinese-Hawaiian offspring.

Chinese women were only allowed into Hawaii for a brief period of approximately 10 years from the mid 1880-1890’s.

Once Hawaii became a U.S. Territory, the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, applied to Hawaii, and Chinese emigration to Hawaii was severely restricted.

Some Chinese were able to circumvent the Chinese Exclusion Act with forged documents, claiming to be the „sons“ an established resident „Paper Sons“ where they would assume the name and identity of another person or family.

Chinese were thought of the as the „Yellow Peril“ poor, backward, rude, and disease carrying, i.e. the plague, and thus the burning of Chinatown to control the plague, which most people interpret today as being racist.  If you burn Chinatown to control the rat population, you also destroy it in the process.

In reality Chinatown was also multi-ethnic, and has been the home of latest group of immigrants.

I still remember in the 1970’s Chinatown was largely Filipino, then in the 1980’s it started becoming Vietnamese or Vietnamese-Chinese, which is what a lot of Chinatown is today. (Chinese immigrants from Vietnam).

What’s your former Hawaiian wife’s last name?

Anyways, many Hawaii Chinese went back and forth from China to Hawaii and back again, to get married, to have children, etc.

Dr. Sun Yat-sen as a matter of fact, even claimed that he was born in Hawaii, to obtain a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, which allowed him to travel in the United States and to circumvent the Chinese Exclusion Act.

I am also the President of the Lin Yee Chung Association, which is the oldest Chinese eleemosynary association in Hawaii founded in 1851, and manages the Manoa Chinese Cemetery.

It’s an amazing place if you get a chance to visit, and literally a repository of the history of the Chinese people in Hawaii.

Best regards,

Charles

February 10, 2021 

Aloha Yip and Charles.

I hope my short lines finds you well.

I wish you both the best for your Lunar New Year, good luck and stay healthy.

Enjoy the time with your friends and family.

I wish you a Happy New Year and welcome to the New Year of the Ox.

About the Interview:

I’ll be in touch soon for the interview with you Charles.

Could you please, about at the end of this month / beginning of March, give me some couple of dates and suggestions, if you are fine for the interview.

So that I can prepare the technology, I may ask you Charles, what kind of technical infrastructure (PC, Mac, mobile …) you will have. You have also a camera, maybe from the laptop?

Do you have a headset also? What kind of software are you familiar and do you know?

Will you be in Hong Kong?

But enjoy first your holidays

Best wishes

Gérard


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